Episode 10: Haunted Theatres
When the audience has gone home and the stage lights have faded, are Britain’s theatres ever truly empty?
In this episode, Karen and Graeme step behind the curtain to explore some of the ghost stories associated with Britain’s historic theatres. From unexplained footsteps and shadowy figures to mysterious reflections and performers who may never have taken their final bow, they examine the history, tragedy and theatrical folklore behind these reported hauntings.
Why do theatres seem to attract so much paranormal activity? Could centuries of powerful performances and heightened emotion leave an impression upon a building—or do people working in the theatre simply enjoy a good ghost story?
Expect haunted dressing rooms, spectral performers and the usual mixture of serious discussion and occasional distraction.
We take the stories seriously. Ourselves? Less so.
Hello everyone, welcome to episode ten of Light Summon Still Scared. My name is Graham Milne.
SPEAKER_01My name is Kevin Swanson.
SPEAKER_00And tonight we are going to be talking about Haunted Theatres Part One. So how have you been doing, Carnel, right?
SPEAKER_01I've been very well yourself?
SPEAKER_00Fine, thank you. We recovered from last episode's Fit of the Giggles. So for today, we have our sensible heads on. I'm going to be talking about some of Britain's most haunted theatres, which are fantastic, very good stories. Each city has probably numerous theatres with the same stories going on that are truly terrifying for patrons and people who work there. So what we're giving today is a selection of those stories and from eyewitness accounts. So Karen, would you like to kick off today?
SPEAKER_01Very well. I am actually going to talk about a very famous theatre in London, the London Palladium.
SPEAKER_00Good, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so London Palladium opened in 1910. Um and it became Britain's most famous variety theatre. So it's not a very old theatre by any means. Um and over the century it's hosted quite a few people on their stage, such as Frank Sinatra, Julie Garland, Bruce Forsyth, The Beatles, Tommy Cooper, Morgan Wise.
SPEAKER_00Okay, these are these are high profile.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, very high profile people and countless royal variety performances. So I don't know if you remember it when you were young watching it on the telly.
SPEAKER_00Yes, we did. It was a staple of television back in the day.
SPEAKER_01It certainly was, wasn't it? Yes. Good family entertainment. Like many old theatres, the palladium has developed a reputation of paranormal activity. Um so um we have a woman on the stairs.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_01So uh the oldest haunting associated with the palladium concerns the unidentified female apparition.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_01Uh she's sometimes referred to as simply as the woman on the stairs. Or the lady in white.
SPEAKER_00Again. Again. Yes.
SPEAKER_01Or woman in the passage.
SPEAKER_00Okay. I think I prefer the previous two names here.
SPEAKER_01No confirmed historic identity has been attached to her though, so they don't know who she is.
SPEAKER_02Alright, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um so she's described as a woman wearing a pale white clothing, uh, walking slightly down one of the backstage staircases and vanishing before reaching the bottom. But she never interacts with people. So it would be that she's um one of those um recordings?
SPEAKER_00Recordings, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So her behaviour is that she walks calmly and never acknowledges anyone. So um so basically it's just less classic there's theatre residue haunting. Um and one that surprised me, perhaps might not be considering his connection to the palladium, is Bruce Forsyth.
SPEAKER_00Really?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so Sir Bruce, as he was known, worked closely with the London Palladium. He hosted Sunday night at the London Palladium, which we know well, I'm sure.
SPEAKER_00Oh that was back in the sixties, wasn't it? Was that before we began to?
SPEAKER_01No, perhaps that was a bit before my time.
SPEAKER_00Well, yeah, I mean I'm just I only heard the through rumour.
SPEAKER_01Uh he performed there many times and considered to be one of his favourite theatres.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_01Um so following his death in 2017, which I didn't think it was all that long ago, but it was. Um, his ashes were interned beneath the stage. That's insane.
SPEAKER_00I never realised that. Goodness me.
SPEAKER_01So yeah, f following his death, stories started to circulate, as they do in these theatres. Yes. Um, that they include feeling Bruce's presence backstage, and there's been unknown noises as well. Uh dressing room doors open by themselves, which is a good one. Yeah. A friendly atmosphere rather than frightening. Reports that Bruce is still checking on the theatre. And some recent claims, which I had a little bit of a chuckle when I heard this, so do tell. Control yourself I am.
SPEAKER_00I'm under control.
SPEAKER_01Some recent claims even suggest hearing his famous nice to see you, to see you. Nice.
SPEAKER_00Maybe not for the people who see him, but I totally get it.
SPEAKER_01No, no. So uh yeah, so unlike uh many hauntings in theatres, these stories are basically that it's quite warm and affectionate, the stories of these ghosts. So they're not frightening at all. And other paranormal activities, staff report, footsteps, empty dressing rooms sound occupied, and again doors opening unexpectedly. Yeah um and feeling watch backstage. Shadow figures seen briefly before disappearing. So, yes, I mean these are basically similar to all those reported in other theatres. Um, but yeah, it's um it's a good one. I did not realise that Brucie haunted it.
SPEAKER_00I did not. I I absolutely did not. That's very fascinating. I'm gonna have to look into that myself a little bit further. Art theatre's creepy, though, you know, these old styles cavernous. Indeed. I've known a few people who've uh worked in them in the past, and um yeah, just being alone in those places gets you gets the old mind going slightly. The one I'd like to talk about just now to kick off is one from 1906. So it's uh an Edwardian theatre from Aberdeen called His Majesty's Theatre, which is a fantastic building. I mean it's really beautiful. First performance there was called Sweet Red Riding Hood, it's a little Red Riding Hood, obviously, and the theatre itself was designed by Frank Matcham, who did a lot of theatre designs across Britain, very famous uh designer, and uh it's been there ever since. But in the 1940s, circuses were actually performed inside rather than the big top, so it wasn't uncommon for animals, etc. you know, courses and what have you to be on the stage, which sounds you know detrimental to health and safety, but you know, it was the 1940s, and that's kind of what they did, and this one was no different. So in December 1942, we have uh a circus going on here described well it's a Royal Britannic Circus uh advertised as a colossal Christmas and New Year attraction. Colossal highlights included forest bred lions. Oh I don't know what a forest bred lion is, but they had lions on stage, which is crazy. An equestrian act, uh a Russian troop described as our allies of the times and performing pigeons, would you believe it?
SPEAKER_01Performing pigeons. Performing pigeons.
SPEAKER_00I'm assuming there was somebody with the pigeons to sort of you know direct them and what they were supposed to do, but that's what they had. So it was an eclectic mix. Now at the time, there was a guy working there called John Murray, who's 73, and you know, he should have really been retired, but been working there for years and really knew the theatre inside out, and apparently kept a book with all the names, the different acts and people he'd spoken to. So he was a really go-to guy, uh, if you want things done there. But however, uh, on the Press and Journal, which is a local paper, on Monday the 27th of December, so two days after Christmas, this story appeared. It said tragedy at HMT Theatre. And it turned out that on the night of the performance, Christmas Eve, what is believed to have happened is they try to get ponies from the um stage down into the basement where they're gonna be kept in a kind of corral. And the lift was pretty small, it was hand-wound. You're supposed to have two ponies on at a time, but they took the four down to speed up, you know. Everybody wanted to get home, obviously. But the lift actually collapsed, so it plunged like a story and set this huge wheel in motion. And John Murray and his friend went to grab the wheel, and his friend ended up with a really badly broken arm, of which, you know, as compensation, he was given three tickets from the theatre. John got struck in the head and killed instantly, and that was the end of him. Absolute disaster for him and his family. I mean, it was really unfortunate. He'd he'd he'd you know kids and he lived uh Nelson Lane in Aberdeen, so it was a real tragedy. However, um his attraction, as it were, to the theatres never ended. It seems like he's still there to this day. Um, lots of stories from people who claim to have seen him. Like a guy called Dougie Monaghan, who actually started in the theatre in 1938 as a page boy, provided lots of information about this guy getting his free tickets for life. He told me a lot about him. He told me about a friend of his Eddie Swan who's the archivist there. And Eddie Swan went to art school in the 1950s in Aberdeen, and he claims to have met Jake the Ghost twice. Uh, one time when he he fell off the stage and actually badly twisted his ankle, he had to try and find himself out into the um the hospital, which is directly behind the theatre. Now he had to go down this huge flight of stairs, which is called the Lambeth Walk, crawling in agony. And when he got to the back door, he realised there was nowhere for him to go because it could be locked. But for one day only the door was unlocked, the padlock had been removed. The guy who padlocked the door at night swore it'd been there in place. So he claims that this ghost removed the padlock so you could get access to the hospital. So that's one of the stories that's been there before. But the figure that's been seen describes a man wearing a brown dust coat, somebody be working there, and he's been seen in various parts. Some of the stories are actually quite creepy. Uh, for example, a guy I spoke to called Neil Newcomb, very nice guy. He um he said, I was given the task of painting, this is his quote by the way, I was given the task of painting the basement with masonry paint, and while painting, I shifted the pot to allow me to paint another area. But when I went and dipped my brush into the tin, it had disappeared and was never found again. So the ghost seems to be moving things about just to kind of play jokes on people. It's not seen as malevolent, but um Neil actually also had to do some sort of like what I would describe as uh work at night as a night watchman, so you know it's a lot of security in the building, it's huge. And there's a very famous story when he has to take this dog around, it's a guard dog, an Osatian, and it was called Savage. Oh, I know, it's very scary, but partly very friendly. But um he took Savage round to do the rounds to check the emergency lights were working, the exit signs, etc. etc. And heading down the back of the theatre to the lab with walk, which is this huge flesh of stairs on the side. It was quite creepy, and I've been in it, yeah, it is quite creepy. And the dog got down in its legs, I mean it's it collapsed on the ground, he threw a ball for it, collapsed on the ground, and lay in its stomach and crawled backwards in the stomach whining. But he would not go down that set of stairs that night or whatever. I know. Um so this is supposed to be Jake wandering around. He was seen by a guy called Peter Thorpe wandering about above, wearing a brown dust coat and apron. Another time seen wearing a blue jacket of some description, so what he's wearing seems to change by sight. One great story from an ex employee called Kenny Luke, he worked there for many years, but in 1983 he was quite uh new to the building, and he said I went into the corridor from a very hot backstage and walked into what I can only describe as a sensation of freezing cold water. I felt uncomfortable. Then I heard the door which connects to the basement open, followed by the sound of someone approaching. I waited and waited to see he was coming up the stairs, but no one appeared, so I hot footed it back to the stage pronto. When I got there, it was around interval time, and I spied Dougie Monaghan who was who looked at me with a knowing smile and said, I take it, you've just experienced Jake. So this story's been going on a long time. Um I think one of my favourite stories was probably uh from someone who worked there as a nocherette, and she was standing waiting uh for the sort of the evening audience to come in uh with her torch, and as she's standing waiting in the main auditorium, she gets pushed on the back and she sort of staggers forward slightly and then looks as the curtains on the stage part as someone walks through. So this has been going on for years. He's described as a friendly ghost. There's been, I think, two times the theatre has actually been done up, and each time there's been work carried on there, his ghostly activity seems to have increased somewhat. I've been there a few times, I was invited a few times round to look, which was really, really uh nice to the people there, and spoke to the archivists at the time, and uh yeah, I can imagine it would be uh a scary place at night. We went down the basement and actually looked where the flywheel had been, um sorry not flywheel where the um wheel had been to take the the lift down, and yeah, it was uh it had atmosphere that's for sure. Anyway, that's HMT. There is much more online. I think I must have about 40 stories lurking around in various books, all taken from personal accounts from people I've spoken to. So yeah, it's maybe one of the most haunted in Britain.
SPEAKER_01Not just not just Aberdeen. So is it just the one guy that's haunted it? Or is this?
SPEAKER_00They think it may have been somebody who worked in the box office, maybe from the 1930s, by the by the mode of what she's the dress, the fashion. But seen very rarely. It seems to be the the man who's prevalent, harmless as it seems, you know, he he doesn't cause anyone any grief, but he he is mischievous. But I think what really freaked me out most about this when I did the research for the building, I wanted to find out that sounds really grim, but how he passed away because there were so many stories exaggerating the event, which is tragic enough in itself. So I went to the birth desk and marriages office and got some information from it, and that's all good. But I couldn't work out the before that I couldn't work out the death date to see because the death date changes in different reports. So I'd gone to John Milne, the book auctioneer in Aberdeen, and bought a box of books randomly while I was doing this research, and I was raking through the books one day and opened up one of the pages, and out pops this tiny clipping from the newspaper of the day, 1942, December 27th, and that is when I actually managed to get the uh information I needed purely randomly from a box.
SPEAKER_01Oh, you say randomly. Yeah, well, there's Mr. Murray there help helping me.
SPEAKER_00I don't know. I don't know. But anyway, that's that. That's HMT. Um so what have you got for us next?
SPEAKER_01So, Graeme, I've got the Sunderland Empire Theatre.
SPEAKER_00Fantastic, good stuff.
SPEAKER_01That's in Sunderland.
SPEAKER_00Kudo. It says what it says on the tin. Kudo, keep me right here.
SPEAKER_01So the Sunderland uh theatre opened in 1907, so again, not a very old theatre, but it was one of the largest and most prestigious theatre in the northeast of England.
SPEAKER_00Very good.
SPEAKER_01Uh housed countless famous performances, as we have mentioned before, we've we had the other theatre, The Beatles.
SPEAKER_00Very good.
SPEAKER_01They done quite a round around the theatres by the sounds of it. Tommy Still.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah, half a sixpence.
SPEAKER_01Indeed. Don't remember him, but yeah.
SPEAKER_00So a bit before our time, if you fair. Really?
SPEAKER_01That's the first time she went on stage, was there? And there's been loads of major West End productions and well known in paranormal circles because of the death of Sid James.
SPEAKER_00Right. Now that is something I'd completely forgot about. That's correct, he died during a performance, didn't he?
SPEAKER_01Indeed, yes. So Sid James, obviously he's famous for the carry-on films.
SPEAKER_00Indeed.
SPEAKER_01What was your favourite carry-on?
SPEAKER_00Ooh, blame me. Carry on screaming, of course. Carry on camping followed close behind, if you pardon the pun.
SPEAKER_01Well, mine carry on camping, that's a classic.
SPEAKER_00It certainly is.
SPEAKER_01I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_00Volleyball's never been the same since.
SPEAKER_01Um and carry-on dick as well.
SPEAKER_00This is uh reference to last week's episode of Lights on Still Scared Folks in case you missed it.
SPEAKER_01But no, honestly, my favourite is Carry On Dick.
SPEAKER_00I saw that when I was eight years old, would you believe it? Did you? Yeah, and I was quite shocked, I have to say.
SPEAKER_01Yes, I mean I don't think they could get away with the majority of the stuff now that they did in those films. Yeah, but anyway, so Sid James is born in 1930 and he died in 1976, so he wasn't that old. Um, he was only about 63.
SPEAKER_00Right, yeah. He had one of those faces that looked old, he really yeah, like a relief map of the Himalayas, I think was one of the quotes they once said.
SPEAKER_01Oh dear, so yeah, so he's a legendary comedy actor starred in Bless This House, which I vaguely remember.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I do remember it. Uh yeah, it was actually quite funny. I think they made a movie about it as well. I think they did.
SPEAKER_01Was um Terry Scott.
SPEAKER_00He was the neighbour in the film, I believe. Yeah, that's correct.
SPEAKER_01Um so yeah, so at that time he was one of the most recognisable entertainers and instantly recognised by his famous laugh.
SPEAKER_00Yes, the laugh.
SPEAKER_01The laugh, yes. Sometimes I do that laugh without Feel free at any point during this. It has to be spontaneous.
SPEAKER_00Fair enough, yeah.
SPEAKER_01It's like I'm possessed, but there you go. Um so on April 26th, 1976, Sid was appearing in the mating season at the Sunderland Empire, and during the performance, Sid was laying on a sofa as part of the script.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_01His co-star, Ogla Lowe, continued delivering her dialogue. So she carried on as it was, but then he failed to respond. Right. And initially the audience believed it was part of the play, so they were laughing along with it. Right. It was only when the stage manager came onto the stage and a doctor from the audience came on that they realised um he was ill.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And Sid was taken to ambulance, but he died shortly afterwards after suffering a heart attack. So yeah, so it rains one of the most tragic moments in British theatre history. Yeah. So the haunting, he he does kind of like haunt the theatre. So there's reported of activities include footsteps backstage, a shadow figure, dressing room doors opening, the feeling that somebody was present, and there's a smell of cigar smoke and whiskey, which apparently what he used to drink quite heavily and smoke quite heavily as well. And you actually do hear his laugh, apparently, in empty corridors.
SPEAKER_00Oh, that's wild. I do like that.
SPEAKER_01Uh so most reports uh centre around backstage corridors in the dressing room area. Right. So this is my favourite story. Do you remember Les Dawson?
SPEAKER_00Yes, I do.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so one of the best known celebrity ghost stories, this is um, and according to folklore, uh several years after Siddha died, comedian Les Dawson was appearing in pantomime at the Sunderland Empire. Oh no, he wasn't. And he was allocated the dressing room. That was used by Sid James.
SPEAKER_00Really?
SPEAKER_01Oh he was getting ready to go on stage and he was preparing for the evening performance and he looked up in the mirror of the dressing room and standing there was Sid James. Apparently definitely pale, with almost black eyes, wearing what could be described as a white shroud. Now, according to what was reported, and this is brilliant, um Sid gave his laugh, then uttered a crude remark directly at Les and immediately vanished.
SPEAKER_00Professional jealousy. It's a terrible thing.
SPEAKER_01Indeed, and some mentioned that there was a smell of whiskey lingering in the room. Oh my god. Really did make me chuckle, actually.
SPEAKER_00I mean terrifying for Les Dawson, but good enough for sharing the story, though, otherwise that would have been awesome.
SPEAKER_01Well he he didn't apparently, but um so according to legend, Les was visibly shaken by the experience. Despite what happened, he still completed the evening's performance. Okay. So the show must go on, even if you see Sid James ghostly looking in the mirror. Yeah. Um according to the members, reportedly noticed that he seemed distracted and repeatedly glanced towards the wings, so he was constantly looking over at the wings of the stage. And once the performance ended, he left the theatre immediately. He didn't stay for any of the after drinks or anything. And he reportedly instructed his manager never to book him out the Sunderland again. And he never did work there again. And he was halfway through his contract. Yeah. So he just said, you know, get me out of the contract, I'm not coming back.
SPEAKER_00That's quite something.
SPEAKER_01And that's what he never does. So, yes. So that that that was a good one. That's a crazy one. I really enjoyed that one. And there is a couple more there. There's a Vesta T. Who was one of the greatest music hall performers uh when it opened in 1907, said to occasionally appear at the front of house areas. And there's uh a Molly Mosul, who was a former stage manager, and accordingly she left the theatre to post a letter and she never returned. And her spirit is said to wander parts of the theatre as well. So, yes, but it's interesting that apparently he's never Les never publicly told the story. Right. But obviously he's told people and it's come vocally. So yeah, that's that was a good one.
SPEAKER_00That's a great one. I wonder if Sid's ever been seen in that form by anyone else. That would be interesting when it's not. I'm kinda tempted to approach them and ask to just to see what they say because I don't know, it'd be fantastic to find out who was.
SPEAKER_01Another angle is perhaps he just because they were friends, he just thought I will scare the out of my mouth.
SPEAKER_00Which he did.
SPEAKER_01Which he did.
SPEAKER_00I bet his piano playing went all the pot that night.
SPEAKER_01Indeed. Indeed.
SPEAKER_00Yes, so that that is well my next one's really boring in comparison, I'm afraid. No, it's nothing nothing nothing nothing particularly outrageous. Well, it's quite good, but it's not like it's not got Sid James in it. But uh it's got BC Scotland.
SPEAKER_01That's good enough.
SPEAKER_00Well, it's this one took place in a place called Caldutal Road, which was uh well this takes place in the late 70s in Caldutho Road, which was the BBC Scotland's at the time Highland HQ. And of course, as a radio station, um nothing distractions when one is reading the news, etc., is really important. But the building was meant to be really haunted, and there's lots of articles appeared at the time. Witnessed were sounds that were described as strange and sights that were described as unusual, including sightings of a lady dressed in grey, the sound of a woman's voice screaming, which actually was recorded live in a programme which scared everybody to bits, and a plethora and that's not an easy word to say, I might add, of disconcerting pottergeist activity. So the figure of the woman, for example, was seen fully formed and described as looking like someone in mourning, but whether the scream is connected to her in any way is this conjecture. Anyhow, a member of the technical staff was shocked to hear it on transmission tape during playback. On another occasion, producer Alan Bates plainly heard someone outside the studio door and quickly looking out found nothing. Soon after another, a senior reporter stated that on one occasion he entered the building, closed the door behind him, and on glancing back found it again wide open. So during the refurbishment, several workmen because the building was very ancient, apparently well not very ancient, but old. So it was refurbed a few times. So during the refurbishment, uh several workmen also reported strange going on, including two of them who had a very unsettling experience, and they left the building, much like Les Dawson, never to return. So on that occasion one worker was sent to fetch beer from a local hotel called the Beaufort. I love the seventies, you know, you just go to work and crack open a few tinnies as you got off the tea. So he left his colleague on sight. Several minutes later, the lone worker heard what he assumed was his workmate clumping back up the stairs with a beer and called out to him, instructing to put one a beer for him in one of the adjacent rooms. However, he was perplexed to hear the footsteps continue out through another door and vanish. Minutes later his real workmate appeared carrying the carryout, and on hearing both the story, both decided to vacate the building uh with the beer, I'm assuming, and that was the end of them. I mean it went on for ages, these stories. Babcy bosses eventually sanctioned a visit by a Glaswegian medium called Daphne Ploughman, who in walking around corroborated the signs, included that of a grey lady and a woman in widow's weeds and mourning. So she went and did a blessing, and apparently then the ghost sightings sort of tempered down and became much quieter. And I've not heard anything recently from that, even if the building's actually there anymore. I c I'll be honest with you, I've not found out if it's still ongoing as the BBC HQ, and it was for many years. But yeah, that was it. So around the 1970s, that was what was going on. Uh BBC Inverness. So there you go.
SPEAKER_01Okay, so but we're still back into the 70s. Okay. Um it's the uh rural National Theatre in London on the south bank. It was built in 1976. And I must admit, I done a little stint there once, not very long, but it's not a very pretty building. It's um it's a building of its time compared to a lot of the theatres which are quite ornate. This isn't this is like concrete and yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's a shame.
SPEAKER_01It was, yes.
SPEAKER_00Poor theatre.
SPEAKER_01Uh dear. So yes, so it's one of Britain's busiest and most prestigious theatres now. Um and it's home with three auditoriums. So we've got the Olivier Theatre, the Littleton Theatre, the Dorfman Theatre, which is formerly the Cottleslow. And although it's modern, it has developed a quite tradition of backstage folklore, which I must admit, when I was there, there was whispers that it was a bit spooky, a bit spooky. And I must admit, the stage I was not keen on. And they do actually say that staff reported that dark figures walk across the empty stage, which I can believe that, considering my my spidey senses used to go and I used to think I really don't want to go there. Um so shadowy sp silhouettes in backstage corridors as well. And someone apparently crossing landings before disappearing, and figures seen from the corner of the eyes and apparitions vanishing when approach. So yeah, so no one's been actually been able to identify any specific historical individuals at all. Um so it just seems like it's just general theatre folklore and theatre people do talk.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I suppose a lot of superstition attached to these buildings as well.
SPEAKER_01But there is quite a story repeated by several theatre staff over the years, and that's seen what appears to be a lone person sitting in the auditorium after performances. And when you look again to find the seat empty and feeling that someone's watching in rehearsals, which is quite a few in theatre folklore.
SPEAKER_00Yes, the favourite seat. The favourite seat. Yeah. Yes, that's true, that is true.
SPEAKER_01And staff has also described footsteps overhead where now we should be present. Doors opening, closing unexpectedly, perhaps it's about you never know. Sounds coming from the scenery dock in and the backstage area, and movement in otherwise empty corridors. And trolleys and equipment apparently moving by themselves. Now that's a good one.
SPEAKER_00I do like a trolley moving by itself. But it's quite creepy to think these things green a bit. Yeah, that's kind of I think I find it creepier s n not seeing I I think I would find it creepier actually not seeing uh a figure. You know, if I saw a figure pushing a trolley, this would be creepy, but a trolley on its own? I find that a bit disconcerting.
SPEAKER_01Disconcerting, isn't it? Um The Olivia Theatre uh uh reports experience include feeling of watched whilst working alone, um, which I think was the the one that I thought was a bit um Shadows, movements on stage and strange noises from the auditorium, and a general feeling that someone else is present. So yeah, so the theatre superstition, though well into that, was never to whistle backstage. Okay never to say the I'm gonna say it, upward Macbeth.
SPEAKER_00Oh dear God, the Scottish play.
SPEAKER_01The Scottish play. Never say good luck.
SPEAKER_02Of course, of course.
SPEAKER_01Always say break a leg. Yeah. So that's that's the tradition there. And one of the oldest traditions, which I assume all the others have gone for, is that they would leave a single lamp in illumination on the stage. Okay. So the practical purpose for that is to prevent accidents and allow staff to work safely across the stage in darkness. But the traditional belief is that the ghost light allows theatre ghosts to perform after everyone has gone home. Well, they need to practice.
SPEAKER_00Did you? They do need to rehearse your hauntings. Hauntings have to be perfected somehow.
SPEAKER_01Uh keeps spirits content and prevents mischievous ghosts from causing problems. So yeah, and that's only on most theatres that believes in the the ghost like Can I ask does that theatre not is it not meant to be haunted by Lawrence Olivier?
SPEAKER_00As as uh you know, obviously who it's named after. Is he been seen? I seem to have this vague memory of it.
SPEAKER_01I will have to look at I I never actually heard that there. I think it's another theatre, but I can't remember which one it was, so I'll have to look that up for next time.
SPEAKER_00I've got this vague feeling that I heard some he was seen in in a mirror by another actor or something.
SPEAKER_01Along with Sid James.
SPEAKER_00Great double act, can you imagine? Sir Larry and Sid. Carry on acting. I'd pay to see that. Would you?
SPEAKER_01I would, I would. Uh so yes, I've completely lost my train of thought now. Thanks, Greg. Sorry about it. But it it's interesting that despite all the the spooky goes on, that they haven't actually narrowed it down to who is actually doing it. Right. And considering it's quite uh a new theatre as well.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um yeah it would be interesting to find out.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Well, I dare say, I mean, it must be tons of these actual experiences being recorded by staff, I'm sure, but it's getting them to speak about it. You know, some some people are quite happy to sort of offload, and others seem a bit a bit reticent. And you know, I've seen things but they don't want to talk about it, you know, for whatever reason. Um which you know, I totally get, but I don't know, it's a level of embarrassment sometimes when people see a ghost, they don't want to talk about it because people assume you know they've they've imagined it or whatever.
SPEAKER_01It's interesting though that well, you know, a majority of theatres are meant to be haunted. So is it a case of that it's it's the atmosphere of the theatres that's causing the hauntings? Because obviously with actors it's like loads of emotions, and obviously you've got the emotions from the audience as well. So is it a case that they just loved the action that they didn't want to leave?
SPEAKER_00Maybe just because it was a happy place, maybe. But you're right, I think a lot of emotion and hopefully positive emotion in a place would probably I don't know, attract something or have some some residual in the air, I guess. But yeah, they're they're brilliant. I um I think it's tragic when theatres get destroyed. I know I know there's many theatres in Britain that are even to this day should be preserved or being changed or bulldozed down to build flats or whatever. And I know they're un you know not used for or or maybe difficult to use for things, but but the work that went into them so beautiful. Works of art in themselves. But yeah, that's good. I like that story.
SPEAKER_01We hope you enjoyed our first episode of Haunted Theatres. We'll continue this journey next week with Haunted Theatres Part Two. In the meantime, keep the lights on, stay scared.
SPEAKER_02I keep the hallway light on, but the shadows never fade. Every corner whisper secret, so the choice is that I made There's a tapping at the window, though the wind is standing still, and the chill runs down my spine like something moving at its wound just.
